JASON WEAR II

"The simpler the object is, the less information it conveys." -James Gleick
"Information is surprise." -Gleick (again)
Blaise stopped by my studio yesterday to have a talk with me about my last post.  He reminded me that our "brand" hinges on being "outside" the "conventional wisdom" of comic-nerd qualititative analyses.  My beef with Ware (coldness, dullness) was, in other words, boring.  My character's role, though, is the blathering, spastic one so, of course I would periodically misstep & that's OK.  OWATEGUSIAM.
The better tactic, we decided, would have been to criticize Ware, the person, for falling into the standard cartoonist trap of overwork, depression, curmudgeonliness. I should've explored better how the narrow path of craft stems from his philosophic substructure vis a vis his social awkwardness and despair.
Ware is cool but not "cool."  He is scalable form, not content.  He doesn't reconfigure himself or his work to suit its context.  He is not involved in "reality."
We have adopted CF as our mascot because he is cool in the wider world/nom-comics-centric sense, and we hope that by surrounding ourselves with "coolness," we can elevate the medium to the level of sexier disciplines like film or music.
To acheive this locally, I will make comics about drugs, apple products, popular music blogs, etc.
I apologize for that last post.

-sent from my iPhone (dumb joke)

Errata: Blaise=shark & JO=amoeba

54 comments:

Anonymous said...

QUALITY CONTROL

DerikB said...

"the standard cartoonist trap of overwork, depression, curmudgeonliness"

But where did this come from? It doesn't apply to the comic strip artists of previous eras (the photorealists like Drake and Raymond seemed to be living pretty upbeat lives)... It's seems to have come from Ware's generation, or perhaps... the undergrounds? (not familiar enough with them to know).

My point being maybe Ware isn't falling into the trap, maybe he built the tap.

Double Duty White Hole Black Hole said...

i thought we were over CF
see previous post

Jason Overby said...

"i thought we were over CF
see previous post"

Sorry! I keep fucking up!

"My point being maybe Ware isn't falling into the trap, maybe he built the tap."

What about Wood, Al Capp, Tezuka (all off the top of my head) working themselves to death? But the archetype of curmudgeon begins with Crumb and extends through Ware's generation (Ivan, Clowes), at least.

Jason Overby said...

Schulz, too. Work instead of life.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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DerikB said...

Well you said "overwork, depression, curmudgeonliness."

I was taking that as a package. I don't see Tezuka or Schulz as curmudgeons. And they certainly didn't portray themselves as depressed like Ware does at times.

Don't really know much about Capp or Wood. Well, I know Wood killed himself, but I don't know anything around that.

DerikB said...

Also, I was just speculating...

Anonymous said...

hmmm hello i am an artist what else can i appropriate today

Anonymous said...

identity theft? ironic indian headdresses? these things and more can be yours if you are an artist. come to my artist school. come to my dungeon. i am the art wizard. i want to show you my crystals. my crystals are in chaos. help me find them.

Anonymous said...

it's almost as if art is a game, and i was put here to 'win' somehow. maybe if i say something incredibly stupid and then draw a magic box around it that says 'persona' this wil cause me to 'win', somehow. you don't mind me jerking off in your face, do you? good. as i was saying, nothing is off limits for the artist.

Anonymous said...

You won. Your eagle eye caught him. Overby is full of shit

Anonymous said...

eagle eye in the sky, floating so high. no one can touch me because i'm a white, magic eye. so white and so pure, i wish i will i wish i might i wish i might make art tonight. eagle eye cherry three doors down third eagle eye cherry blind down doors the third eye eye eye

Anonymous said...

maybe when he said 'transparent eyeball', emerson actually meant 'transparent cellphone.' like, what if i was a cellphone. cellphones have both cameras and the internet, so i could both eat and shit. as an artist, i concieve of myself as a magic transparent dick that pierces the world with new buttholes, and then poop comes out of them, and that poop is mine and i can sell it because i control the means of magic cellphone poop production.

Anonymous said...

jason overby killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. we must ask, not what i can get from this goose, but it wouldn't be cool if i could know what was inside the goose without killing it. maybe ask the goose. if you want to know where the egg comes from you have to be willing to touch the goose's butthole with your eyeball.

Anonymous said...

the greatest trick art wizard ever played was making you believe an eyeball fucks the world. it's not. an eyeball has an orifice and stuff inside of it. And like the god-trick, this [false art devil] eye fucks the world to make techno-monsters. Zoe Sofoulis (1988) calls this the cannibal-eye of masculinist extra-terrestrial projects for excremental second birthing.

Anonymous said...

@c.bren hey i really like your redesign of this site :)

Jason Overby said...

@crben you are much cooler than Chris Ware

Anonymous said...

is 'cool' a currency? can i hide it under a mattress? is there a 'cool' bank i can deposit it in? but if it's a bank, how can other people see it and know how cool i am? is 'cool' more abstract that money? does that mean that commodities i can exchange it for are also more abstract? what is the exchange rate between 'cool' and the second life Linden currency? or can i just exchange my made-up 'cool' points for made-up objects in second life directly? i can't think of anything else to do with it. how much 'cool' for someone to make a fake twitter of me?

Anonymous said...

if i am unremittingly hostile on the internet, does that mean i will avoid accumulating 'cool' capital or that i will get more of it? when you use social networking services you are constructing a hideous doppelganger of yourself in virtual space. can i kill it? if i say really fucked up things, is that it or me saying it? what if my facebook doppelganger doesn't want to live? can it unplug itself itself or do i have to do that for it? what if i have to take down the rest of the internet with me? if i set off a bomb in a restaurant in second life, is that real terrorism? what if real people can be hurt by virtual actions? if i feel the need to be hostile to virtual people on the internet in order to sabotage the construction of the public doppelganger of me, how do i deal with it if real people didn't like it that i attacked their virtual selves? is pain people feel about virtual objects legitimate pain? if you die in the matrix, do you die in real life?

Jason Overby said...

What is money?

Anonymous said...

"The dismal science"

VOMITS VOMITS said...

i feel warm right now

but sometimes i get pretty hot

Blaise Larmee said...

wow! i've been thinking about that calvin 'cool' panel for a week! i think 'cool' is a really important and sophisticated structure. it is always critiquing itself, its own institution. uncool is cool. cool is uncool. this kind of logic makes cool always moving, never resting. 'cool' as a pejorative means someone who is where cool used to be. gtg for a walk! bye...

Anonymous said...

being cool is exactly like seeing a dead body: both of those things are cool

Ian Harker said...

Chris Ware is cool because he is more talented that anyone else working in the same medium as him. Sorry guys, you can try to rationalize it away but the guy is really that good. The natural response to someone of Ware's talent should be total intimidation and awe.

Anonymous said...

What are you, a Republican?

ScienceCentral said...

Yeah guys what are you thinking? He's the coolest dude in the room. How can I explain it? It's like there's a natural order of things of coolness, like it's just part of nature, like it's normal, pure, and white. Like if I were to draw a scale of coolness, seeing a dead body would be one of the coolest things, setting stuff on fire would be somewhere in the middle, my mom is definitely all the way at the bottom. Chris Ware is all the way at the top of that scale: it's a scientific fact. In all seriousness, though, I'm sorry I don't have have the natural, normal, heterosexual reaction to Chris Ware. Maybe I'm experiencing false consciousness or something. Maybe there's some course of aversion therapy I could go through that would make me like Chris Ware. What do you think?

Jason Overby said...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Michael L said...

methinks J. Overby wants to design some book covers for the McSweeney's corporation (the flagship corporation of coolness for people who are older than J. Overby)

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Ian Harker said...

Sorry dudes and dudettes, some people still judge "coolness" based on what one can do rather than how one presents their facade. Why rail against Ware as the "establishment figure" anyway? He's miles ahead of the rest of the establishment, so he's really on a different level. You know I think you guys (Blaise & Jason) are pretty avant-garde when it comes to the form but Ware is still doing things that I would consider avant-garde on top of the meat and potatoes stuff that actually gives work substance. Jason, if you actually read ANL20 you would have seen that he transitions into an art-brut sequence that would give any art comic guy a run for his money.

SECRET PRISON PIT FOR DUDEBITCHETTES said...

i love how he says "dudette" at the beginning of the comment and you can tell there is one little synapse firing in his brain trying to figure out what people are saying to him but then it just gets so worn out by the effort of actually trying to listen to another person that he ends up saying "art comic guy" at the end of the message as if nobody had ever said anything

Ian Harker said...

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Sexless Vomit said...

Net Neutrality = Gender Neutrality

Keep it Sexless!

when i accidentally think about masturbating i want the thought to be immediately replaced with an image of a white sponge, quivering rhythmically on a slab of stainless steel

Anonymous said...

admiration.....projection.....disgrace!!!

Austin English said...

"Jason, if you actually read ANL20 you would have seen that he transitions into an art-brut sequence that would give any art comic guy a run for his money."

wait...wasnt that part supposed to be a parody? im totally serious. it was so over the top bad i assumed it was played for laughs.

Jason Overby said...

Ha!  Agreed!  Seems like he's having fun, loosening up at the end there, and I'd love to see more stuff like this from him (or sketchy autobio), but there are much better psychedelic comics out there.

& redrawing Panter (crummily) seems like a weird choice in the context - too proggy, too name-droppy.

Austin English said...
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Austin English said...

You think he is doing Panter with that? I thought it was like 'self parody'...considering the news article that comes before it about the shy author and all that. sounds like ware commenting on his own career and then sort of doing a (hilarious) pastiche of fort thunder/kramers stuff. if its a joke it is pretty funny.

Jason Overby said...

The grasping hands are taken from Jimbo on Paradise (tried to find the image online for comparison, but no luck and most of my comics are not accessible to me at the moment), but I don't know what that means.

Also, not sure if it's better as parody (those silly kids!) or straight (I might be mikd-mannered on the outside, but inside my id is boiling!)...

Jason Overby said...

Read it more closely, and I don't think it's parody - more Sound & Fury...

Ian Harker said...

I wouldn't call it a parody, I think the style is totally appropriate to the feeling he's trying to get across in that scene. My point was that he's able to deliver in a style that's so far out of his wheelhouse. Many artists work their whole life at a style like that and can't deliver as well as he did in a one-off aside. It was obviously an intentional aside, that doesn't make it a parody or a pastiche though.

Anonymous said...

admiration.....projection.....disgrace!!!

blind in both butts said...

would someone mind posting more images of this controversial art brut sequence by Christopher Ware ?

appropriately enough my word verification is 'lintsub'

fantastic!

J.T. Dockery said...

I'm cooler than you guys because it doesn't seem any of you realize the "what is cool/uncool" was already thorougly satirized more than a half century ago by Del Close and John Brent. UNLESS you already realize that and are making fun of that satire, and I'm not catching it. In which case, y'all are cooler than me.

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Anonymous said...

i think you're catching

Austin English said...

Heres an expanded edition of that sequence

http://www.amazon.com/Daddys-Boy-Shocking-Account-Famous/dp/0385297300

Anonymous said...

thanks Austin! yeah i guess i agree with Ian... the stylistic mastery is impeccable and i detect not a whiff of irony. watch out Mat Brinksman!

Austin English said...

hey anon: anytime! glad to clear up the confusion.

Uland said...

Are guys really talking about what's "cool" vs. what's cool?
It's embarrassing.

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